Featured economist, October 2022

Emilio Depetris-Chauvin

Emilio Depetris-Chauvin is an Associate Professor of Economics at the Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile.

Emilio Depetris-Chauvin is an Associate Professor of Economics at the Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile. His areas of research and teaching interests are political economy, economic development, economic growth, and cliometrics. He is particularly interested in understanding the causes and consequences of conflict and violence. His work has been published or is forthcoming in the American Economic Review, Journal of Economic Growth, Economic Journal, Journal of Development Economics, and Journal of Public Economics.

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Emilio Depetris-Chauvin is an Associate Professor of Economics at the Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile. His areas of research and teaching interests are political economy, economic development, economic growth, and cliometrics. He is particularly interested in understanding the causes and consequences of conflict and violence. His work has been published or is forthcoming in the American Economic Review, Journal of Economic Growth, Economic Journal, Journal of Development Economics, and Journal of Public Economics.

In their own words…

IEA: You have worked on a very wide array of topics ranging from nationalism and state conflict to guns and the division of labor in pre-industrial times. Can you tell us a little bit about your research strategy and how you decide to work on these quite different topics.

Emilio: This is a question I get very often. While I do see my research agenda as eclectic, I primarily conceive of myself as an applied economist who enjoys interdisciplinary work. I think I work on all these different topics because of my journey as a grad student at Brown University. When I started my Phd I was not 100% sure about what fields to take, so I ended up taking classes on very different topics from development and growth to applied metrics, urban and public economics. Therefore, I was lucky to learn about long-run development and growth from David Weil, Oded Galor, and Stelios Michalopoulos and about political economy/public economics from Brian Knight and Pedro Dal Bo. My interactions with all these great scholars shaped my research agenda back then. While I have expanded my set of topics since, there is still some path dependence in my work which is, broadly speaking, on long-run development and political economy.

Nonetheless, one of my main interests is understanding the causes and consequences of conflict. A curiosity motivated by the fact that conflict remains a significant obstacle to economic development. I am particularly interested in a series of fundamental questions: Why do people fight? Why conflict ever occurs at all? Why would two rational competing actors choose violence over a bargained solution? Is there any societal arrangement (either institutional or cultural) that could prevent conflict from occurring? A big chunk of my research is related to these fundamental questions.

Regarding my research on long-run development, I have always been interested in understanding the reasons underlying contemporary differences in the standard of livings across the globe. Then I went to Brown to learn that part of these differences in development was deeply rooted in history, so understanding the past can help us understand the present. Using data and statistical methods is an excellent way to understand the past and its link with the present. When I discover an unanswered question on this topic, find appropriate data, and elucidate an empirical strategy to address that question, I go for it.

There is also another critical factor in deciding which research project to start: coauthors. Most of my coauthors are my friends, so we talk a lot about everything but mainly about the state of the art in our field. This process of brainstorming ideas is the genesis of a project. One is usually thinking about several ideas, all the time, and most of these ideas never turn into a paper, and only a few of them end up in a publication. Here I would like to say that none of my projects would have been possible without the help and hard work of my research assistants. When you do empirical work, you rely a lot on your research team.

IEA: You are from and currently teach in Chile. How has your background affected your approach to economics and what you study?

Emilio: I live and teach in Chile, but I am originally from the other side of the Andes mountains: Argentina, where a long list of serious economic problems (e.g., hyperinflations, balance of payment crisis, etc) occurred during my formative years, including the most profound economic and social crisis in the country’s history. Puzzled by these recurrent episodes, I decided to study economics as an undergraduate. Over time, particularly after I finished a master’s degree in economics in Argentina, I realized I did not want to study monetary/short-run macroeconomics. In any case, Brown was strong at Growth and Development when I started grad school hence I began working on topics that were not necessarily relevant to my home country (i.e., sort-run macro). Therefore, I would say that my Argentine background did not substantially affect my approach to economics as a researcher. It only affected me in becoming an economist.

IEA: Do you think there is a gap between the kind of economics that is practiced and valued in the U.S. and the sort of economics that is relevant and useful in developing or middle-income countries?]

Emilio: I am not sure if there is a distinction in the way we “do economics” outside of the US. After all, many scholars in the developing world were trained as economists in universities from the US, and Europe. But I do see a gap when it comes to what type of subject of economics research is more or less critical to award publication in goods journal. With the exception of some particular fields (e.g., development economics), I believe there is still a gap between what is deemed as relevant (research-wise) in the US vis-a-vis developing countries. I honestly do not know precisely why, but I still get, from time to time, the question of “why should be care about this X problem in this Y country?”. I do not know; maybe it is just some kind of lack of interest in understanding problem X or country Y, some sort of suspicion regarding the quality of the data from that country, or a mix of both. In any case, I must say that the gap is shrinking since I see more and more great publications in top journals on topics relevant and useful to developing countries. Even better (at least for me!), the number of publications from scholars based in developing countries is steadily increasing.

IEA: Do you have any words of advice for students of economics low-income countries as to how they can expand their networks and break into the forefront of the research world?

Emilio: I believe that the best way to expand networks and be part of a research community transcending your home country is to get to know the local economists working on the topics you are interested in. Most of the time, these economists, mainly professors in local universities, know well how the “business” of research in economics works. They already have a network that expands beyond their home country and would likely love to help you career-wise. While the number of Phd-granting universities in developing countries is increasing (some of them are very, very good), I would recommend, when possible, pursuing a Phd abroad. Studying in a foreign country is a wonderful experience for two reasons. First, funding opportunities tend to be generous in places like the US or Europe. Second, you not only take classes with that guy you read in a paper during your undergraduate, but you will get to know a lot of people from all around the world. That experience will blow your mind. Doing a Phd is not only about making a (human capital) investment decision but also about consumption. Indeed, it is a life experience. So, how do you get into a Phd? That takes you to my first advice above: get to know local economists who will help you to pursue your dream. In case you decide to do a Phd in your home country, apply to every scholarship that allows you to spend some time abroad or get you some funding to attend international conferences.